Searching for a Greener Room

Searching for a Greener Room is a podcast that debunks, demystifies and simplifies the often confusing world of sustainability. We ask honest questions to experts, scientists, and change-makers, explore evidence-backed answers, and share achievable actions that help anyone become a better planet dweller. Listener-led, community-driven, and here to make sustainability second nature.

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Episodes

Tuesday May 27, 2025

SfaGR with Chris Hines AUDIO
Transcript
Chris Hines, a long-time environmental activist and co-founder of Surfers Against Sewage (SAS), discussed his journey from surfing in Cornwall to leading campaigns against sewage pollution. He highlighted SAS's early successes, including a 1991 lobby at the Houses of Parliament that led to a £2 million research fund. Hines also shared his work at the Eden Project, where he implemented sustainable practices like the Triple Bottom Line. He emphasised the importance of community, resilience, and informed consumerism, advocating for ethical consumerism and repairing and reusing items. Hines also mentioned the impact of misinformation and the need for better environmental legislation.
Action Items
[ ] Research and subscribe to the Ethical Consumer magazine to make more informed purchasing decisions.
[ ] Slow down, travel less, and stay longer in destinations to reduce carbon emissions.
[ ] Repair, reuse, and respect the possessions and resources you have.
[ ] Engage in more conversations with people and build connections within your community.
Outline
Chris Hines' Environmental Journey and Early Surfing Experiences
Curly Steve introduces Chris Hines, highlighting his extensive environmental activism and surfing background.
Chris Hines shares his early life in Plymouth, growing up near Dartmoor, and his love for the natural environment.
Chris recounts his first experiences with surfing, starting with a wooden belly board and later owning a second-hand surfboard.
He describes his favourite surfing spots in Cornwall, including Whitmouth, Polzeth, and Trigg Point.
Formation of Surfers Against Sewage (SAS)
Chris explains his transition from surfing to environmental activism, leading to the formation of SAS in 1990.
He details the initial meeting in Porthtowan and St. Agnes, where the idea of SAS was born due to increasing pollution in the water.
Chris describes the first public meeting in St. Agnes, which attracted over 200 people despite initial scepticism.
He highlights the early challenges, including the discovery of panty liners and condoms in the water, which spurred the formation of SAS.
Early Activism and the Impact of SAS
Chris recounts the first public protest in the Houses of Parliament, which led to a £2 million research fund into the health effects of sewage-contaminated sea water.
He discusses the impact of SAS's activism, including the introduction of the term "intelligent activism" to describe their strategic approach.
Chris describes various tactics used by SAS, such as media campaigns, shareholder activism, and legal challenges to force water companies to improve their practices.
He shares a memorable incident involving a 10-foot inflatable turd, which was used as a protest tool to draw attention to the issue.
Challenges and Solutions in Water Treatment
Chris explains the historical lack of sewage treatment works in the UK and the impact of Margaret Thatcher's statement that all sewage was treated before discharge.
He describes the discovery of Jersey's effective sewage treatment system using ultraviolet light disinfection, which inspired SAS to advocate for similar solutions.
Chris details the successful implementation of UV treatment in Durham and Welsh Water, which significantly improved water quality.
He highlights the ongoing challenges faced by SAS, including the need for continued activism due to regressive legislation and funding cuts.
Transition to the Eden Project and Introduction of Triple Bottom Line Thinking
Chris discusses his transition to the Eden Project as Sustainability Director, where he implemented waste management and sustainability initiatives.
He introduces the concept of the Triple Bottom Line, which balances economic, social, and environmental considerations in business practices.
Chris shares an example of applying the Triple Bottom Line to the installation of a dishwasher at the Eden Project, which reduced landfill, created jobs, and improved the dining experience.
He describes the impact of the Triple Bottom Line approach on various aspects of the Eden Project, including security and procurement.
Establishment of A Grain of Sand
Chris explains the establishment of A Grain of Sand, an organisation focused on helping individuals and organisations make a positive impact.
He discusses the importance of community-based solutions and the role of small, agile organisations in driving change.
Chris highlights various projects and initiatives supported by A Grain of Sand, including vinyl flooring recycling and sustainable surfboard manufacturing.
He emphasises the need for collective action and the power of small, individual contributions to create a better future.
Current Challenges and Future Directions
Chris discusses the current state of environmental activism, including the need for stronger legislation and increased public awareness.
He highlights the role of technology in both solving and exacerbating environmental issues, emphasising the importance of responsible use.
Chris shares his thoughts on the future of environmental activism, including the potential for community-based solutions and the importance of resilience.
He concludes with a call to action, encouraging listeners to engage in conversations, support environmental initiatives, and work towards a more sustainable future.

Tuesday May 20, 2025

Curly Steve and Matt Hocking discuss the transformative power of creativity in addressing the climate crisis. Matt, founder of LEAP, a B Corp design studio, emphasises the importance of ecological and social responsibility in design. He shares his journey from early creative influences to leading at the Eden Project, where he implemented sustainable practices. Matt highlights the significance of B Corp certification, which he achieved in 2005, and the impact of his work on environmental standards. He also introduces the concept of "enoughism," advocating for balanced activism and practical steps like switching to ethical banks and adopting sustainable practices in daily life.

Tuesday May 20, 2025

Curly Steve and Stephen Murphy discuss the impact of home energy use on the UK's carbon emissions, which account for 20%. Stephen, a low-carbon energy advisor, emphasises the importance of insulation, particularly loft and solid wall insulation, and the benefits of heat pumps over traditional heating systems. He highlights the role of Community Energy Plus in guiding homeowners through retrofitting processes, including grants and financing options like the Boiler Upgrade Scheme. Stephen also stresses the need for proper ventilation and moisture control during retrofits. The conversation concludes with practical tips for reducing energy use and the importance of starting the retrofitting journey.

Tuesday May 06, 2025

Jane Gray, known as the Nettle Lady, shared her journey from Brighton to Cornwall, highlighting her transformation from a stay-at-home mother to a university graduate and nettle weaver.
She discussed her challenges, including a tumour diagnosis and the loss of her great friend, Howard.
Jane emphasised the health and sustainability benefits of nettles, including their use in textiles and teas. She founded Nettle Revolution, promoting natural fibres and sustainable practices.
Jane also mentioned her involvement in the Golden Zones project and her son's gratitude journaling app, which has positively impacted her outlook.
She advocates for using nettles for their numerous health and environmental benefits.

Wednesday Apr 30, 2025

Nigel Gooding, a data privacy advisor and doctoral student, discussed his journey from Exeter to Cornwall, his business in data protection, and his doctoral research on sustainable business in Cornwall's natural landscapes. He highlighted the challenges of balancing environmental sustainability with economic viability, particularly in tourism and farming. Nigel emphasised the importance of AI in fraud detection and data privacy, advocating for marginal gains in environmental protection. He recommended resources like "The Coming Wave" by Mustafa Suleyman and "Cannibals with Forks" by John Elkington for deeper insights into AI and business sustainability.

Wednesday Apr 23, 2025


Curly Steve interviews Zoey Cotton, founder of Saunassa, a contrast therapy space in Cornwall. Zoey shares her journey from managing a $6 million ski bar in Whistler, Canada, to establishing Saunassa. She emphasises the benefits of contrast therapy, including improved cardiovascular health and mental well-being. Zoey discusses the importance of community, inclusivity, and social prescribing, where GPs can prescribe sauna sessions. She highlights Saunassa's unique features, such as wood-fired saunas and cold baths, and her commitment to making wellness accessible. Zoey also mentions her involvement in the British Sauna Society and the Sauna Aid Project, which provides saunas to vulnerable communities.
Action Items
Practice being a kinder person and leading with kindness.
Check out Saunassa on Instagram: @saunassa_spa and their website: https://saunassa.co.uk/
Connect with Zoey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoey-cotton-107878170/

Wednesday Apr 16, 2025

Curly Steve and Jake discuss the impact of eco-anxiety on individuals' actions and empowerment. Jake explains that eco anxiety is a range of emotions, including numbness, motivation, and fear, in response to the climate crisis. He emphasises the importance of community, reflective activities, and visualisation in overcoming eco-anxiety. Jake highlights the significant impact of dietary changes, particularly shifting to plant-based diets, which reduce land and water usage by 75%. He also discusses the role of protests and financial actions, such as switching to sustainable banks, in driving systemic change. Jake shares his personal experiences with protests and the importance of balancing personal contradictions while advocating for sustainability.

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